Hi, I'm Derick, and this is PHP internals news, a weekly podcast dedicated to demystifying the development of the PHP language. This is Episode 54. Today I'm talking with Gabriel Caruso about his ensure correct signatures of magic methods RFC. Hello Gabriel, would you please introduce yourself?

Hello Derick and hello to everyone as well. My name is Gabriel. I'm from Brazil, but I'm currently in the Netherlands. I'm working in a company called Usabila, which is basically a feedback company. Yeah, let's talk about this new RFC for PHP eight.

Yes, well, starting off at PHP eight. Somebody told me that you also have some other roles to play with PHP eight.

Yeah, I think last week I received the news that I'm going to be the new release manager together with Sara. We're going to basically take care of PHP eight, ensuring that we have new versions, every month that we have stable versions every month free of bugs, we know that it's not going to happen.

That's why there's a release cycle with alphas and betas.

Yeah.

I've been through this exactly a year early, of course, because I'm doing a seven four releases.

Oh, nice. Yeah. So I'm gonna ask a lot of questions for you.

Oh, that's, that's fine. It's also the role of the current latest release manager to actually kickstart the process of getting the PHP, in this case, PHP eight release managers elected. Previously, there were only very few people that wanted to do it. So in for the seven four releases it was Peter and me. But in your case, there were four people that wanted to do it, which meant that for the first time I can ever remember we actually had to hold some form of election process for it. That didn't go as planned because we ended up having a tie twice, which was interesting. So we had to run a run off election for the second person between you and Ben Ramsey, that's going to go continuing for you for the next three and a half years likely.

Yep.

So good luck with that.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

In any case, let's get back to the RFC that we actually wanted to talk about today, which is the ensure correct signatures of magic methods RFC. What are these magic methods?

So PHP, let's say out of the box, gives the user some magic methods that every single class have it. We can use that those methods for anything, but basically, what magic methods are are just methods that are called by PHP w